like this: the pentagon says, it's okay, it's okay. what they mean is it's a cia operation, not our respond. and kennedy, who'd been a lieutenant jg in the navy, what did he know, couldn't hear that. and, unfortunately, thought that the joint chiefs were signing off on the operation when they weren't really. what they were really saying was it's not our responsibility. so there's a very revealing colloquy between kennedy and ike where ike basically says to kennedy, you know, the next time you do this, make sure you really talk to everybody and have a real debate about it. and if you do it, you know, really do can it. because as i said, or he was an all or nothing guy. and kennedy gets that picture. and it's part of the education of john f. kennedy. one thing i like about president kennedy, he was raw, he was green, but he did learn on the job. he was bullied by kruschev in 1961, he had a rough summer in berlin, but he learned.